Comments on: E Juice? How long till it kills someone…

By: QG

QG — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:36:49 +0000

We had a warning message from Dr Murray Laugeson. Dr Laugesson is a highly respected scientist who has done as much as anyone in support of the electronic cigarettes. In the warning he advises people to avoid nicotine juice. He also pointed out to us privately that it would take just one incident with a child and that would be the end of e-cigarettes.

(You can read his full warning here: http://www.healthnz.co.nz/ecigarette.htm)

Despite the aggression of some of these people, I can't really believe they would want a kid to die, even if their parents were stupid enough to leave e-juice lying around, but maybe from a selfish point of view they would consider that it would only take one stupid parent to put an end to e-smoking.

It's also great that the better manufacturers now provide warnings and safe bottles, as we do with refills. However, there are still many dodgy manufacturers and suppliers out there who are only interested in a quick profit.

By: Tara

Tara — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:22:54 +0000

Good point about no childproofing on cigarette packs. And just as important, no warnings about ingestion on the packs either.
I can't tell you the number of times my baby daughter got a hold of cigarettes and started eating them. Call me stupid, but I never really even put 2+2 together re. the potential nicotine poisoning.

The nicotine juice I bought for my e-cigs is the first place I've even seen such a warning.

My kids are older now and a bit wiser, and so am I. I am glad to see the warning on the nicotine juice bottles because it made me aware of the danger.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:33:00 +0000

I would no more over indulge on an ecig than I would on a tobacco cigarette. Everybody’s nicotine tolerance/habit varies. When users body reaches an acceptable dosage of Nicotine, your brain says, “ok, I’ve had enough for now, I am satisfied”.
Would I smoke a whole pack of tobacco in one sitting?, of course not. It would make me physically sick. Same holds true to an ecigarette. Many people who do not have a Nicotine habit, seem to look at this in an non-logical view. You can’t vape an extra amount of ecig, and then just suddenly die, that concept is ridiculous. As with tobacco, you get physically sick first.
Even if the amount of Nicotine in cartridges were controlled, what would stop me from inhaling 4 or five instead of just one? People need to look at this with common sense!
Responsible adults, should have every right to make their own decisions as with any drug. whether it be tobacco, alcohol, prescribtion drugs….etc,etc, etc.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:55:00 +0000

Intersting debate! Is it difficult to measure the exact quantity desired into the e-cig cartridge though? The cartridges I have come iwth a meaured acceptable “dosage”

By: Jane

Jane — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:44:00 +0000

I’ve yet to see a child proof package for regular cigarettes and they are something that is more likely to be left laying about with no thought given to the dangers. Personally, I have no children in the house, but plan to keep my supplies in lockable box.

By: scott bonner

scott bonner — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:08:00 +0000

hi all,

yes, e-liquid could be very dangerous if it got into the hands of a small child. but as other sensible people have suggested, you simply need to keep it out of their reach.......problem solved!

i review electronic cigarettes on youtube and speak regularly with many different suppliers. i would like you guys to know that nearly every e-cig company i speak to are now bringing in safety measures such as child proof lids to make sure that e-liquid will be as safe as possible. one company called TECC (theelectroniccigarette.co.uk)even have all their cartridges now sent out in child proof containers.

the correct steps are gradually being put in place by e-cig companies to ensure total safety, but ultimately the safe and appropriate use of liquid nicotine is the responsibility of the user.

cheers,

scott / igetcha69 on youtube

By: Holly

Holly — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:24:00 +0000

One more quick thing– nobody is stopping a parent who wants to take extra measures from pouring their e-juice into a child-proof container, even if it didn’t come in one. Electric outlets are very dangerous to small children, and I think most parents deliberately put child-safe “caps” on them. (But just like with medicine’s child-proof caps, you better still watch them and protect them because they can be more clever than one might think!)

By: Holly

Holly — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:11:00 +0000

It’s simple. Keep all poisons away from children. Period. Saying that e-juice is any worse to have in the home than the prescription and over the counter medicines, cleaning supplies, kitchen utensils, etc. that we all own based on the fact that it could kill a child is highly illogical. Parents don’t get rid of all their kitchen knives when they have children– they don’t quit taking their blood pressure meds– we keep those things safely away from the children! Just as we protect our toddlers by not allowing them to run into the street where cars can kill them or pick up snakes, etc, etc, etc.

I read a very good suggestion once about how to be even more vigilant– keep your juice in a small lockbox and wear the key around your neck on a chain.

By: Josh S.

Josh S. — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:55:00 +0000

James:
Do you have bleach in your house?
Is it in a child save container?
Do have any kind of cleaning supplies in your house that are just as deadly in small dosages to children? How do you store them?
The amount that can kill and the container it comes in is a moot point when it comes to children, like you said “they certainly seem to get everywhere” SO, I believe it is the adults responsibility. Gee, I dont know what happened, it must have been that the bleach was not in a safe container, so my kid drank it. Is that still not the adults responsibility? Take some responsibility for yourself and let the responsible people take care of themselves.

By: Randy

Randy — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:53:00 +0000

James,

My opinion remains unchanged,nameless or not.