Comments on: UK Regulation of Electronic Cigarette: Good or Bad?

By: admin

admin — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:04:01 +0000

The very cheapest (and especially the free trials) are generally the ones that are the scams. Read the small print carefully.

E-Cigarettes are not a miracle cure for cancer. They don’t claim to remove cancer. What they do do is take away some of the causes of cancer. The problem with cigarettes is not the ingredients, it is the combustion. Remove the combustion and you remove much of the health risks of cancer. Which doesn’t, of course, cure already established cancers.

By: marc.d

marc.d — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:14:15 +0000

Having trawled though a number of e-cig adverts I only found one that offered to supply a trial pack at a fair price and it amazes me that if the product was all they claim it would be in their interest to promote it in any way possible.
Another thought is if a miricle cure was found for any of the more serious cancers this would make the headlines of all TV news broadcast and all other forms of media.
the big Q, genuing product og get rich scam.

By: M C G

M C G — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:23:30 +0000

I have been buying e-cigs for the past 2 years direct from China. I have had no urge to smoke during this time and have no worries about the quality of the e-cig, they come with a 12 month warranty and I have returned parts and had them replaced free of charge.
Typical of the UK government to want to nurse maid us because we are too stupid to look after ourselves! nobody is entitled to have an opinion on the safety of e-cigs except those that use them people at ASH are meant to be anti smoking so what has a non smoking device got to do with them? are they going to want to regulate chewing a pen next because that is what I did to occupy my hands when I stopped smoking before?
I have a sneaking suspicion that this may be about money? ie we have it and the government want it!

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:34:43 +0000

The Electronic Cigarette is nothing short of a miracle, one the most life altering products to be produced in recent years, it will save millions of lives and change the way people smoke in years to come, and from what i hear the MHRA have allocated a two hour slot to discuss the topic. It has also been said the meeting has been adjourned by one day, therefore messing up all travel plans for many doctors and scientists and others. What is going one ? What i find amazing is that whilst the traditional cigarette a product that is known to include rat poison, ammonia, formalahide, toilet cleaner, Arsenic, Methane, Carbon Monoxide, pesticide and NICOTINE is allowed to stay on the shelves,
The Electric Cigarette has been put under such scrutiny all because of the mis information that has spread like wildfire over recent months. However after many heated discussions and various reports from esteemed doctors and scientists, it seems as each day passes more and more people / big wigs are acknowledging the electric cigarette is here to stay and the difference it can make to so many worldwide.

Now we what we have is the battle for control, In the states the FDA got thrown out of court. What will happen with their UK counterpart ?

The MHRA as it stands says there are three choices.

1. Regulate it as a medicine now
2. Regulate it as a medicine later
3. Do nothing – They must have had to fill in a third box and couldn’t come up with anything !”!

So It seems now that there is only one discussion / choice they are considering “regulate is as a medicine”

What is happening now is the MHRA have now commanded the power to decide (OVER A TWO HOUR PERIOD) who will get control over the regulation and distribution of the Electric Cigarette.

We all know the MHRA, like America’s FDA, is funded by pharmaceutical companies who manufacture competing nicotine cessation products.
Retailers fear that the pharmaceutical industry is planning to either:

a. Try to shut down the industry. or
b. Take it over for themselves – having first removed the established competition.

The close relationship between the MHRA and these companies has been revealed by a parliamentary select committee investigation into the pharmaceutical industry:

This would make a great theme for Film. The Firm II ( Maybe )

Michael – A very concerned retailer

By: Mickyj

Mickyj — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:17:14 +0000

So now it the pharmaceutical turn to manipulate the media and governments and the general public….. So they are next in line….. Who do you think will be next?
Funny that the MHRA is funded by the pharmaceutical Industry….. ???
They want control over the electric cigarette…. But NOT the Traditional Cigarette, or the tomato or Chocolate…. Results have been outstanding and one day will reduce the fatalities due to smoking more so than any other product. many companies have spent years marketing this product and helped millions of people quit the habit., and now after many years due to the success and growing popularity they face closure, why because the big boys have decided we want control. I am not adverse to regulation. But it seems the arguments are laughable and the obvious reason behind it is control and money.
My Wife wants me to say……..
The Electronic Cigarette is nothing short of a miracle, Now the Vultures from above are swopping down and stealthy manipulating the media and governments into giving them control…… What a Joke!

By: Hostels

Hostels — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:58:20 +0000

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By: QG

QG — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:35:07 +0000

Although I wil argue that at least where tobacco harm reduction is concerned ASH UK have behaved better than ASH US. They have actually come out and said that the electronic cigarette is certainly less harmful than cigarettes, and have avoided making direct calls to ban it.

By: DaveA

DaveA — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:57:12 +0000

More ASH dirt. In the UK about 75% of ASH's funding indirectly comes from pharmaceutical companies. Did you know that ASH and pharmaceutical companies work together on projects and own or have owned shares in pharmaceutical companies? Take a look at this.

"ASH has worked closely with both Glaxo and SmithKline Beecham staff and always welcomed the active collaboration. I hope to continue this with the merged company. We have worked with GSK under the auspices of the WHO-Europe Partnership Project on tobacco dependence and at various one-off opportunities. ASH was instrumental in securing greater government commitment to smoking cessation products in the NHS National Plan and we have helped with PR for both Zyban and Niquitin CQ. Our involvement with GSK staff has, I believe, been mutually beneficial, and we have gained from exposure to the company's arguments and insights. I have always admired the commitment and professionalism of the GSK staff involved…"

"ASH has a small shareholding in GSK and I will be attending with others to question you and the Chairman on this situation."

http://old.ash.org.uk/html/conduct/pdfs/garnier.pdf

By: DaveA

DaveA — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:49:48 +0000

After Ecigs at 80% the next best method is the Allen Carr's tools with a peer reviewed 53% success rate. After you have read it promise me not to snigger at ASH's expense.

"27th November 2007

Today Action on Smoking and Health (ASH), the public health charity has apologised to Allen Carr’s Easyway Organisation for unfounded comments made by its Director in November 2006.

In November of last year, Deborah Arnott, Director of ASH claimed that specific success rates quoted by Allen Carr Easyway were “plucked out of the air” and “basically made up.” She made these comments whilst on the BBC Radio 4 “PM” programme during a piece concerning the death of Allen Carr, founder of Allen Carr’s Easyway organisation.
Deborah Arnott’s comments referred to two independent studies conducted by eminent experts in the field of smoking cessation which had already been published in peer reviewed journals indicating a 53% success rate for Allen Carr’s Easyway to Stop Smoking Clinics after 12 months.

Following a complaint by Allen Carr’s Easyway International, Deborah Arnott and ASH now acknowledge that it was wrong for Ms Arnott to have made the comments relating to the 53% success rate and have issued an unreserved apology.

ASH has agreed to pay the legal costs incurred by Allen Carr’s Easyway.

ttp://allencarr.com/central/article/133/ash-apologise-to-allen-carrs-easyway.

By: QG

QG — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:32:25 +0000

Yes, corporate propaganda is a bit rich after all the crap spewed out by ASH international and the other health groups, who at the same time do not disclose the funding provided by them by the pharmaceutical groups whose products are threatened by the electronic cigarettes – there is a list of some of this funding here:
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/campaign/anti-e-cig-campaign-funding.html