Thousands do enjoy it actually – many of our users say they prefer it to cigarettes. You need to get a decent one, though! The latest models are not very different from a cigarette.

“So coercion to me is exactly the correct word to use.”

So, your freedom to use cigarettes is reduced, so you oppose people’s freedom to use electronic cigarette? I don’t see the logic of that. Surely freedom to choose means freedom to choose to smoke, not to smoke or to use an alternative?

And just who is doing the coercion. The tobacco companies hate us. The pharmaceutical companies hate us. The anti-smoking groups funded by the pharmaceutical groups hate us. We are a group of new businesses and users struggling against a regime which does not want an alternative to smoking – this is not some conspiracy to get all smokers to stop fighting for their rights!

I can understand EXACTLY what this means.
If smoking were not banned in so many social situations there would have not been the need for this e-cig. After all, smokers do not wish to suck on a piece of plastic and look like total idiots or addicts.
I have joined the f2c forum (it’s no big deal joining, just submit your username and password etc.) and what they are saying makes total sense. It would be as if food were suddenly banned but a pill would satisfy hunger. The e-cig is just that, a substitute for the real thing that vapers will not admit to. They want a cigarette but are seen as lepers for actually smoking. So by using the e-cig they think that they are actually enjoying it when they are not.
When alcohol is banned no doubt some other method of delivery will be available ( a vodka pill maybe) but that will be exactly the same as the e-cig. No enjoyment, but merely a substitute for the real thing that is less terrifying and less obnoxious to other people as actually smoking
So coercion to me is exactly the correct word to use.
I tried the plastic cig for a few weeks so that I could go in pubs, but it was pathetic and I could not convince myself that I enjoyed it one bit.
So I stay indoors now to have a drink and to enjoy a real cigarette.

NRT/ Alternate methods of delivery of nicotine. F2C’s policy

Postby __-Steve-__ » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:02 am
The official position of F2C with regard to all alternate methods of delivery of nicotine is as follows;

Freedom2Choose does not support alternate methods of delivery of nicotine (including e-cigs) due to the fact that they are being used as products of coercion to replace the real choices of consenting adults.

Both ASH and The Royal College of Physicians have indicated a desire to force smokers onto such alternate methods of delivery of nicotine in order to remove all other choice entirely which is contrary to the values of Freedom2Choose.

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Note; F2C (Scotland) do not have this policy.
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We really do have to stick close and look after each other, we’re all smokers after all … or at least we enjoy nicotine … or have similar habits, and we’re all under threat.

I’ve heard vapers say that smoking should be banned and now here are smokers saying that vaping isn’t a proper option to smoking. We really need to look at the influences that are dividing us and causing us to make judgements about choices that shouldn’t be under threat in the first place.